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Throng - Combat Tsunamis
Combat Tsunamis

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experimental electronic soundtrack ambient atmospheric

 

3 tracks
67:53
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1 Turncoat Encroachment
 
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18:55
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2 Combat Tsunamis
 
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23:59
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3 The Bat Elephant
 
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Album description

 

Some technical background on this session.

Using our LFI technique, we set up the LFI matrix so that each person that you can hear can also hear you. This sounds simple, but the ramifications are huge: you're never playing 'with' a person who can't hear you--which often happens with complicated LFI matrices. The entire ensemble ends up divided into 'interlocking trios', as you can see in tonight's setup:

Hears Player Is heard by

1, 2, 4 1 1, 2, 4
2, 3, 1 2 2, 3, 1
3, 4, 2 3 3, 4, 2
4, 1, 3 4 4, 1, 3

 

This setup allowed Mike to hear Chris & Patrick, and them to hear Mike. However, they could each also hear Pete, whom Mike could not hear. So they are both playing with Pete, but Mike is not-- he is playing with them.

Anyway, the long and the short of it is that a really trippy session ensued, since we had no bass player around to impose structure and order on everything. But a number of new techniques are paying dividends already: not just the new LFI matrices, but the fact that each of us is wearing, underneath our regular headphones, another set of in-ear 'earbud' style headphones. These are connected to the headphone outputs of our individual KP3's, so that we can audition our entire signal chain sounds like before it gets to the Eventides, which is being used primarily as a time-based effects box. This means that once we get our grooves and pulsations and filter sequences (etc.) just so, we can start bringing them into our Eventides, which we can then use to bend and stretch and loop and twist this audio. But we can monitor (without actually sending to the Eventide) the entire signal chain--before it gets to the Eventides! And since we're using the in-ear earbuds, we can preview different options by listening to ourselves only on our earbuds, but the rest of the band on our THroNG headphones. Since we don't have to switch headphones, so it's really been easy to adapt to. That technique is allowing us to make far fewer 'mistakes' with loops/textures/etc. that we add to the mix--we pretty much always know if something's probably not going to work before we dump it into the Eventides and ruin the piece.

 

 

 



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05/04/09

It kind of sounds like a radioactive isotope breaking down, each half life half itself again. So it spends some of it's time together, then it breaks down into chaos and then an element, or combination of elements pulls it back together again for a while, and then the cycle seems to be repeated. The whole concept of being in a band and then playing disparately seems interesting and sounds odd and to be so concise, when freeform would allow this kind of freedom anyway, seems even stranger. That it works would be simply a matter of opinion but it in the first track never seems to be anything concrete, and that's the essence it that it is always in a movement, even when one source settles into a means of expression, another is effectively undoing what is being done otherwise. What it does mean is that form is rarely achieved, and constancy is the fact that it is always changing. So, it resembles a group of people talking to certain others, leaving someone out, who in turn is talking to some of those original 'others', while leaving at least one out but still retaining the thread of the conversation. In effect there is not lead or foundation, but simply an admixture of musical threads, woven with a mathematical pattern, that can only end up looking random.

It would be interesting to hear a choral piece with effectively the same pattern, and see how that would work out, but I think essentially, although it works in places there is always something missing and I think that is down to the numerics, as in only three can hear the fourth, though the fourth always seems to be missing. Hence the hole in the whole. However, hypothetically, the fourth should be able to anticipate himself in the response of the other three, presuming that the leader leads, but that relies on something ephemeral which, again hypothetically, should get better over time. Kind of relying on a collective consciousness and being able to tune into that, not necessarily the music itself, but an intuition of the music being played and going to be played, i.e. the longer it is done, the more together it becomes. As I listen this hypothesis seems to bear itself out. The percussion coming in only at a later time, almost proves this, because it cannot demarcate it's timing until the intial chaos has settled down into portions of musicality, even though they are still changing in size the percussion can make subtle adjustments to suit, because over time the rhythm in the music becomes more evident and smaller, which would be easier to cover with the odd back beat to bring the pace of percussion back into line with the music. The second track seems to increase my belief in the theoretical sustainibility.

Assuming that these recordings are linearly recorded, i.e. one after another, the percussion should, and does, come in earlier than the first two tracks. This will 'prove' the hypothesis of formative causation. This seems to work out, there having to be less drastic, but more adjustments to the foundation provided by rhythm, be that via any of the instruments. As it happens, The Bat Elephant does sound more together, or am I putting into play the observer effect and believing that it sounds better. This one should definitely be 'blogged' for comparison of comments. The other test is that the rhythm should become faster as time progresses, knowing that a faster pace is easier to disguise mistakes within from my days in a band myself, as a drummer. It should work out better as the exponential decrease as rhythm increases. To my ears, it seems to. But, would really need someone else to take the time to give it a listen and say what they think. As a piece of music it becomes more easily digestible, but according to the hypothesis would if endured long enough just end up in a indistinguishable blur of noise, i.e. effectively a dronescape, with subtle nuances of pitch shifting the only apparent variability possible. So, in effect it catches up with itself and becomes 'at one', with the odd inclusion of more relaxed percussional elements and rhythmical structuring, because they get larger as they encompass more of the smaller pieces, so instead of becoming a runaway train, it finds a new sense of pace, with more within each 'stride'. Tricky, but I think it pans out. Interesting experiment.

 

Album information

USA
Genre Free Ambient
Release April 28, 2008
Listens 895 Downloads 129
Starred 5 Playlisted 1    
Reviews 2 Rating 9.0/10

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